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- REVIEWS> New China Area Editor: Jessica Zu
- CORRECTION: REVIEWS> New China Area Editor: Jessica Zu (Rafal Stepien, not Rafal Felbur)
- Re: Query about the three wheels of doctrine
- Re: Query about the three wheels of doctrine
- Re: Query about the three wheels of doctrine
- Re: Query about the three wheels of doctrine
REVIEWS> New China Area Editor: Jessica Zu
by A. Charles Muller
Dear Colleagues,I am happy to inform you that Jessica Zu (Princeton) has completed the process for becoming H-Buddhism's next review editor for the China area, replacing Rafal Felbur, who is stepping down after having done an excellent job for us for the past three years.
Jessica will be posting a message of self-introduction shortly.
Regards,
Chuck
CORRECTION: REVIEWS> New China Area Editor: Jessica Zu (Rafal Stepien, not Rafal Felbur)
by A. Charles Muller
Dear Colleagues,In my prior message introducing Jessica Zu as our new China area review editor, I mistakenly indentified Rafal Felbur as the outgoing editor. The outgoing editor is Rafal Stepien. My apologies to both!
Regards,
Chuck
Re: Query about the three wheels of doctrine
by Jan-Ulrich Sobisch
Dear John and John,no, it is not fictive. There must have once existed the view that Mantra is a fourth wheel. In a Tibetan text composed in the late 12th or early 13th century, 'Jig rten mgon po says:
'o na theg pa chen po gsang sngags rdo rje theg pa 'di sde snod gsum gang du 'dus 'ji ltar yin snyam na/ kha cig gis gsang sngags sde snod bzhi par 'dod pa lags skad/
Sde snod gsum gyi nyams len bsil byed tsan dan gyi phreng ba. Jikten Sumgön’s Works 1:173–213, p. 176.
Jikten Sumgön’s Works: Khams gsum chos kyi rgyal po thub dbang ratna shrī’i bka’ ’bum nor bu’i bang mdzod. Collected Works of ’Jig rten gsum mgon. Edited by H. H. Drikung Kyabgon Chetsang (Konchog Tenzin Kunzang Thinley Lhundup). Dehradun: Drikung Kagyu Institute, 2001.
But I too have not been able to identify the proponent.
Best wishes,
jan
CERES,
RUB Bochum
Re: Query about the three wheels of doctrine
by Matthew Kapstein
Friends,Tibetan Rnying-ma-pa sources do regularly speak of a "gsang sngags chos 'khor," *Guhyamantradharmacakra," "dharma wheel of secret mantra." But I am not aware of this being referred to as a fourth wheel of dharma in traditional sources. My impression has been that it is implicitly regarded as belonging to the thrid turning of the wheel. In fact, much the same may be said of the Dge-lugs-pa approach, as set out by Mkhas-grub-rje; see. Lessing & Wayman, Mkhas grub rje's Fundamentals of the Buddhist Tantras (Mouton 1968), which also speaks of a "gsang sngags chos 'khor," but clearly as part of the third wheel.
However, it is possible that some contemporary Western teachers have taken talk of a "mantra wheel" to be in effect a fourth.
On the Jo-nang-pa master Dol-po-pa's view of the three wheels, you may wish to look at my The Tibetan Assimilation of Buddhist (OUP 2000), pp. 106-119. It seems clear that, although he spoke of "four councils" and "four ages" of the doctrine, when it came to wheels he referred to the canonical three as taught in the Sandhinirmocana.
best to all,
Matthew
Matthew Kapstein, EPHE, Paris, and the University of Chicago
Re: Query about the three wheels of doctrine
by Matthew Kapstein
Dear Jan,Your text speaks of a fourth piTaka (sde snod) not a fourth wheel. Rnying ma sources do often speak of a fourth vidyAdharapiTaka, and this is a term indeed known from Indic materials. But it is not the same as a fourth wheel.
all best,
Matthew
Matthew Kapstein
EPHE, Paris
Re: Query about the three wheels of doctrine
by Jan-Ulrich Sobisch
Dear Matthew,I though so too, but at least in the eyes of 'Jig rten mgon po it is the same thing. The sixth vajra statement of the first chapter of rDo rje shes rab’s commentary on the dGongs gcig says:
'dod pa'i khams dang gzugs med du/ /sangs rgyas rnams ni sangs mi rgya/ /gzugs kyi khams kyi 'og min du/ /yang dag sangs rgyas der sangs rgya/ /sprul pa po zhig 'dir sangs rgyas/ zhes gsungs pas/ 'di ni rig pa 'dzin pa sngags kyi sde snod bzhi pa dang / sngags chos kyi 'khor lo bzhi par 'dod pa'i lugs de yin gsungs//
Our colleague in Hamburg, Dorji Wangchuk, seems to have given a paper called “Overt and Covert Indian Sources on the Vidyādharapiṭaka” focusing on the topic of the sde snod bzhi pa.
jan
